Broad beans - freezing

[Robert]

Does anyone know if you can get away without blanching broad beans please?

[Brian]

Post by Robert
Does anyone know if you can get away without blanching broad beans please?

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I have always frozen my beans and have never blanched them. Give the bag
a good shake after a few days and they will remain separated. I use the
dwarf varieties for flavour and volume~~ also freedom from blackfly.
Blanched vegetables I find quite unappetising~ Brussels~ horrible!!
Best Wishes Brian.

[pammyT]

Post by Brian

Post by Robert
Does anyone know if you can get away without blanching broad beans please?

______________
I have always frozen my beans and have never blanched them. Give the bag
a good shake after a few days and they will remain separated. I use the
dwarf varieties for flavour and volume~~ also freedom from blackfly.
Blanched vegetables I find quite unappetising~ Brussels~ horrible!!

Same here. Never blanched a thing in my life.

[Jaques d'Alltrades]

Post by pammyT

Post by Brian
I have always frozen my beans and have never blanched them. Give the bag
a good shake after a few days and they will remain separated. I use the
dwarf varieties for flavour and volume~~ also freedom from blackfly.
Blanched vegetables I find quite unappetising~ Brussels~ horrible!!

Same here. Never blanched a thing in my life.

I don't blanch fruit, but all other veg get the treatment.

I generally fry mushrooms before freezing them: since most of the
flavour is fat-soluble, I can take them out, slice/dice/chop them and
add them straight to casseroles, etc.

[Alan Gould]

Post by Robert
Does anyone know if you can get away without blanching broad beans please?

Yes, we never freeze them. Take them young while their skins are still
tender and freeze them asap after picking.

[Peter Stockdale]

Post by Alan Gould

Post by Robert
Does anyone know if you can get away without blanching broad beans please?

Yes, we never freeze them. Take them young while their skins are still
tender and freeze them asap after picking.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

Sorry, but this reply makes no sense .

Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

[Pam Moore]

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:40:27 +0000 (UTC), "Peter Stockdale"

Post by Peter Stockdale

Post by Alan Gould

Post by Robert
Does anyone know if you can get away without blanching broad beans please?

Yes, we never freeze them. Take them young while their skins are still
tender and freeze them asap after picking.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

Sorry, but this reply makes no sense .

It makes perfect sense to me!

Post by Peter Stockdale
Pete
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Pam in Bristol

[Peter Stockdale]

Post by Pam Moore

Post by Peter Stockdale

Post by Alan Gould
Yes, we never freeze them. Take them young while their skins are still
tender and freeze them asap after picking.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

Sorry, but this reply makes no sense .

It makes perfect sense to me!

Post by Peter Stockdale
Pete
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Pam in Bristol

Your incorrect cutting of the message just makes it more senseless !!

Pete at Nanneys Bridge

[CK]

Post by Peter Stockdale

Post by Pam Moore

Post by Peter Stockdale

Post by Alan Gould
Yes, we never freeze them. Take them young while their skins are still
tender and freeze them asap after picking.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

Sorry, but this reply makes no sense .

It makes perfect sense to me!

Post by Peter Stockdale
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com

Pam in Bristol

Your incorrect cutting of the message just makes it more senseless !!
Pete at Nanneys Bridge

I think Alan and Joan's reply probably should have read " we never BLANCH
them " ???

Chris in Somerset

[Alan Gould]

In article <d94j5v$6p9$***@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, CK <***@takeawaythenumb
eryoufirstthoughtof.pilton80.wanadoo.co.uk> writes

Post by CK
I think Alan and Joan's reply probably should have read " we never BLANCH
them " ???

Correct. My thanks and apologies.

[Pam Moore]

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:53:38 +0100, "Peter Stockdale"

Post by Peter Stockdale
Your incorrect cutting of the message just makes it more senseless !!
Pete at Nanneys Bridge

Oops! Blame the eyes. Yes, on second readiing, Alan did say" we never
freeze" but I did not notice it. Blane the eyes for that also.
Ignore my mistakes!


Pam in Bristol

[Peter Stockdale]

I think Alan and Joan's reply probably should have read " we never BLANCH
them " ???

Chris in Somerset


I sort of guessed that - CK. !!

People should take care to say what they mean.

Incidentally - what is the purpose of blanching ?

Pete in Cheshire

[Kay]

Post by CK
I think Alan and Joan's reply probably should have read " we never BLANCH
them " ???
Chris in Somerset
I sort of guessed that - CK. !!
People should take care to say what they mean.
Incidentally - what is the purpose of blanching ?

Sterilisation. It used to be thought that unblanched veg would still
manage to go off even when frozen

[CK]

Post by Kay

Post by CK
I think Alan and Joan's reply probably should have read " we never BLANCH
them " ???
Chris in Somerset
I sort of guessed that - CK. !!
People should take care to say what they mean.
Incidentally - what is the purpose of blanching ?

Sterilisation. It used to be thought that unblanched veg would still
manage to go off even when frozen
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

No ~ not sterilization.
What blanching does is destroy some of the natural enzymes in the material
that can produce 'off' tastes after long storage in the freezer.

I don't blanch any of my produce for freezing, but try not to keep it too
long, and to use it in rotation.
Cheers,
Chris in Somerset

[Jaques d'Alltrades]

Post by Kay

Post by Peter Stockdale
Incidentally - what is the purpose of blanching ?

Sterilisation. It used to be thought that unblanched veg would still
manage to go off even when frozen

They can - but it doesn't mean to say that they will.

[Jaques d'Alltrades]

Post by Peter Stockdale
Incidentally - what is the purpose of blanching ?

Certain food-poisoning bacteria are present in some vegetables (I don't
know which, or whether it's a lottery whether they're there generally),
and the bugs you blanch to kill will multiply in very cold conditions -
not very fast, but the potential is there if the food isn't eaten fairly
quickly.

[Jaques d'Alltrades]

Post by Pam Moore
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:40:27 +0000 (UTC), "Peter Stockdale"

Post by Peter Stockdale

Post by Alan Gould

Post by Robert
Does anyone know if you can get away without blanching broad beans please?

Yes, we never freeze them. Take them young while their skins are still
tender and freeze them asap after picking.

Sorry, but this reply makes no sense .

It makes perfect sense to me!

It makes no sense - full stop. However, if you allow for a senior
moment, just substitute 'blanch' for the first 'freeze'.

Personally, I would never freeze any vegetable without blanching: there
are some (food poisoning) bacteria which may be present in vegetables
which will multiply even at freezer temperatures.

[Peter Stockdale]

Post by Jaques d'Alltrades
Personally, I would never freeze any vegetable without blanching: there
are some (food poisoning) bacteria which may be present in vegetables
which will multiply even at freezer temperatures.
--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Do commercial harvesters and freezers of say "Garden peas" blanche I wonder
?

Pete

[Jaques d'Alltrades]

Post by Peter Stockdale
Do commercial harvesters and freezers of say "Garden peas" blanche I wonder
?

Yes.

[Brian]

Post by Jaques d'Alltrades

Post by Peter Stockdale
Do commercial harvesters and freezers of say "Garden peas" blanche I wonder
?

Yes.
--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

________________
Many years ago I was at a conference where this question was asked.
Their answer was "We 'flash freeze' at much lower temperatures than you can
achieve and this avoids the need for other treatment".
They demonstrated that their methods could be used for strawberries and
keep them whole~ but actually broke when dropped!.
Best Wishes Brian.

[Alan Gould]

Post by Peter Stockdale

Post by Peter Stockdale
Do commercial harvesters and freezers of say "Garden peas" blanche I

wonder

Yes, they are obliged to do that by law because they are selling their
produce for public consumption. Recreational gardeners consuming their
own produce can choose their own methods.

[Jaques d'Alltrades]

Post by Brian
Many years ago I was at a conference where this question was asked.
Their answer was "We 'flash freeze' at much lower temperatures than you can
achieve and this avoids the need for other treatment".
They demonstrated that their methods could be used for strawberries and
keep them whole~ but actually broke when dropped!.
Best Wishes Brian.

I did a fish handling course at Torrey Research Station and some
professor arrived with a big vacuum flask of liquid nitrogen and a small
cod.

Demonstrating that the cod was quite floppy, he dunked it in the liquid
nitrogen and left it on the desk for a bit. About five minutes later, if
that, he removed the cod and used it as a hammer to knock a six inch
nail into a block of wood.

[pammyT]

Post by Brian
________________
Many years ago I was at a conference where this question was asked.
Their answer was "We 'flash freeze' at much lower temperatures than you can
achieve and this avoids the need for other treatment".
They demonstrated that their methods could be used for strawberries and
keep them whole~ but actually broke when dropped!.
Best Wishes Brian.

tsk typical macho display "oh look I can hammer a nail in with my cod piece"
;-)

[Robert]

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: Does anyone know if you can get away without blanching broad beans please?
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Thank you everybody, that's a job less to do by almost complete agreement

[Robert]

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:: Does anyone know if you can get away without blanching broad beans
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: Thank you everybody, that's a job less to do by almost complete agreement
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On second thoughts, I took notice of Peter and blanched them... better safe
than sorry

[Peter Stockdale]

Post by Robert
:: Does anyone know if you can get away without blanching broad beans
please?
: Thank you everybody, that's a job less to do by almost complete agreement
On second thoughts, I took notice of Peter and blanched them... better safe
than sorry

Don't know where I have given "notice" of blanching.
I am actually on the fence on the issue.
Sorry that you got the wrong message.

Peter
www.thecanalshop.com

[Robert]

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: Don't know where I have given "notice" of blanching.
: I am actually on the fence on the issue.
: Sorry that you got the wrong message.
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: Peter
: www.thecanalshop.com
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Sorry it was Jacques

[Peter Stockdale]

Post by Robert
Sorry it was Jacques

Accepted - confusion is not unlikely as J. dA signs as "Rusty" !

Pete

[Tony Anson]

Post by Peter Stockdale

Post by Robert
Sorry it was Jacques

Accepted - confusion is not unlikely as J. dA signs as "Rusty" !

And neither is my name...