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Do foxes eat rats?
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Stan The Man
2005-04-28 13:29:03 UTC
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...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
bigboard
2005-04-28 13:35:28 UTC
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Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
They certainly do if they can get them.

More likely to be a cat, IMO.
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Stan The Man
2005-04-28 15:32:23 UTC
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Post by bigboard
Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
They certainly do if they can get them.
More likely to be a cat, IMO.
Cat would be prime suspect but there are no domestic cats within a mile
and I have never seen a wild one here.
bigboard
2005-04-28 15:37:42 UTC
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Post by bigboard
Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
They certainly do if they can get them.
More likely to be a cat, IMO.
Cat would be prime suspect but there are no domestic cats within a mile
and I have never seen a wild one here.
In an area with such a low population density of cats, I would still not be
surprised if it was a cat. If they don't have to cross other cat's
territories, they will roam a long way. Some cats will, anyway. We had one
that roamed at least that far.
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Janet Baraclough
2005-04-28 15:16:36 UTC
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Post by bigboard
Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
They certainly do if they can get them.
More likely to be a cat, IMO.
Cats tend to eat everything except the bowels, or at least, the liver
etc. It amazes me how they manage to excise rodent organs absolutely
clean and completely unbroken. Dogs just eat the lot.

Possibly, another rat?

Janet
bigboard
2005-04-29 09:59:16 UTC
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Post by bigboard
Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
They certainly do if they can get them.
More likely to be a cat, IMO.
Cats tend to eat everything except the bowels, or at least, the liver
etc. It amazes me how they manage to excise rodent organs absolutely
clean and completely unbroken. Dogs just eat the lot.
Possibly, another rat?
You could be right. Rats certainly cannibalise each other.
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Tumbleweed
2005-04-28 15:38:09 UTC
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Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap?
A ninja rabbit?
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martin
2005-04-28 15:43:45 UTC
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:38:09 +0100, "Tumbleweed"
Post by Tumbleweed
Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap?
A ninja rabbit?
Mike playing with his supper?

Were the legs pulled off?
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Alan R Williams
2005-04-28 15:42:30 UTC
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Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
Are you sure it's been disembowelled as opposed to its stomach
bursting due to the gas build-up that happens as the body decays?

Alan
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Bob Hobden
2005-04-28 16:32:47 UTC
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"Stan The Man" wrote ...
Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
Cat most likely. We get rats in all states of dismemberment on our allotment
and I am certain it is at least one of the cats in the Swan Sanctuary next
door, they have about 27 cats. A fox would tend to eat his kill but these
cats are well fed and leave the carcase for the crows.
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suspicious minds
2005-04-28 17:11:49 UTC
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Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
Possibly Jackdaws, Magpies or other corvids, I have seen them do it.
ZoeM
2005-04-28 14:12:04 UTC
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....or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its min
on
tasting it...... TIA.
Sounds like a cat - they play with prey, but don't tend to eat it.

Zo

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undergroundbob
2005-04-28 18:00:18 UTC
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I'd guess cat as well. Foxes don't tend to bother with live food whe
there's lots of tasty rubbish around IME..

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Alan Holmes
2005-05-16 17:02:53 UTC
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I'd guess cat as well. Foxes don't tend to bother with live food when
there's lots of tasty rubbish around IME...
Foxes love dead squirrels, I discovered this by accident, when I was
catching
a couple a day, I used to put them into plastic bags into the dustbin, after
a little while I thought it was a waste of plastic bags so i started to try
to collect more squirrels in each bag, one day I went to the bottom of the
garden and couldn't find one of the bags which puzzled me until I found it
some distance away, it had been carefully opened and the contents were
missing, I was a little bit concernded at first that I hadn;t properly
killed the sqirels and they had recovered and got away, it then became
fairly obvious that it was the foxes who were responsible, so I now just
throw the dead squirrels onto the ground, the next day they are gone.
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pammyT
2005-04-29 21:02:03 UTC
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Post by ZoeM
....or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
Sounds like a cat - they play with prey, but don't tend to eat it.
I take it you don't have a cat?
I have 12 and they eat everything they catch except shrews.
Alan Holmes
2005-05-16 17:02:58 UTC
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Post by pammyT
Post by ZoeM
....or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
Sounds like a cat - they play with prey, but don't tend to eat it.
I take it you don't have a cat?
I have 12 and they eat everything they catch except shrews.
Our cats would usually bring the things into the house still alive,
and then play with them, sometimes the blessed things got away then
we would have to find them!

If the cats ate any of their catch they usually left the heads!
david taylor
2005-05-16 20:50:23 UTC
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Some years ago I saw a picture of a fox in Bristol sitting in a dustbin
eating a rat.
The short tailed vole is a major food item for foxes.
Post by Alan Holmes
Post by pammyT
Post by ZoeM
....or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
Sounds like a cat - they play with prey, but don't tend to eat it.
I take it you don't have a cat?
I have 12 and they eat everything they catch except shrews.
Our cats would usually bring the things into the house still alive,
and then play with them, sometimes the blessed things got away then
we would have to find them!
If the cats ate any of their catch they usually left the heads!
BAC
2005-04-29 08:19:46 UTC
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Post by Stan The Man
...or if not, what other creature might be responsible for the
disembowelled rat next to my compost heap? Actually, it was only
slightly disembowelled so maybe my welcome predator changed its mind on
tasting it...... TIA.
There's no end of predators/scavengers which will attempt to make a meal of
a dead or vulnerable rat, and which will slither, scamper or fly off when
disturbed. That would include a fox, of course.
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